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	<title>Comments on: Scope (15), 2009</title>
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	<description>Scholarly writing &#38; musings on film.</description>
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		<title>By: Novecento</title>
		<link>http://www.austinfisher.me.uk/publications/scope-november-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Novecento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to the book Austin!</description>
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		<title>By: Austin Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.austinfisher.me.uk/publications/scope-november-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great. Thanks for the information. The film&#039;s uneasy balance between history and myth is all of a sudden even more intriguing.

Yes, reading through my argument again, I can see that the sentence is not sufficiently contextualised. The &quot;becoming Zapata&quot; comment is supposed to be metaphorical and intertextual (suggesting purely that Petroni apes the tropes, dialogue and framings of Elia Kazan&#039;s / Marlon Brando&#039;s fictional cinematic character &quot;Zapata&quot;), not historical or literal (actually having Milian become or represent the historical revolutionary Emiliano Zapata). By omitting adequate discussion of this cinematic reference point, it is unclear that this is what I mean.

My book will elaborate upon this argument and, I hope, make it in a more cogent manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great. Thanks for the information. The film&#8217;s uneasy balance between history and myth is all of a sudden even more intriguing.</p>
<p>Yes, reading through my argument again, I can see that the sentence is not sufficiently contextualised. The &#8220;becoming Zapata&#8221; comment is supposed to be metaphorical and intertextual (suggesting purely that Petroni apes the tropes, dialogue and framings of Elia Kazan&#8217;s / Marlon Brando&#8217;s fictional cinematic character &#8220;Zapata&#8221;), not historical or literal (actually having Milian become or represent the historical revolutionary Emiliano Zapata). By omitting adequate discussion of this cinematic reference point, it is unclear that this is what I mean.</p>
<p>My book will elaborate upon this argument and, I hope, make it in a more cogent manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Novecento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novecento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a short bio in Spanish about him: 
http://www.bibliotecas.tv/zapata/zapatistas/tepepa.html

Actually I quite agree with your argument from a thematic point of view. It&#039;s just that in terms of historical characterizations, it seems weird to say that Cuchillo has transformed into Zapata when quite clearly he has become Tepepa (who did of course fight for Zapata).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a short bio in Spanish about him:<br />
<a href="http://www.bibliotecas.tv/zapata/zapatistas/tepepa.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bibliotecas.tv/zapata/zapatistas/tepepa.html</a></p>
<p>Actually I quite agree with your argument from a thematic point of view. It&#8217;s just that in terms of historical characterizations, it seems weird to say that Cuchillo has transformed into Zapata when quite clearly he has become Tepepa (who did of course fight for Zapata).</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.austinfisher.me.uk/publications/scope-november-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for the feedback. I am unaware of Tepepa being a real historical figure, so would appreciate a source for this info if you have access to it. Either way, there is no doubt that Giulio Petroni purposefully based the character specifically on the mythical &quot;Zapata&quot; depicted by Elia Kazan in &quot;Viva Zapata&quot; (direct and unambiguous quotations of this film&#039;s framing devices and dialogue pervade &quot;Tepepa&quot;). 

The sentence you quote seeks to convey the extent to which Petroni and Milian begin by repeating the ready-made &quot;Cuchillo&quot; archetype from &quot;La resa dei conti&quot; and &quot;Corri, uomo, corri&quot; (a picaresque Commedia dell&#039;arte Harlequin, wretched peasant and wandering trickster), and twist this characterisation into the ruthless and assertive &quot;Zapata&quot; figure we see for the majority of the film. Apologies if this argument is not expressed as clearly as it could be. I shall look again at how I construct it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for the feedback. I am unaware of Tepepa being a real historical figure, so would appreciate a source for this info if you have access to it. Either way, there is no doubt that Giulio Petroni purposefully based the character specifically on the mythical &#8220;Zapata&#8221; depicted by Elia Kazan in &#8220;Viva Zapata&#8221; (direct and unambiguous quotations of this film&#8217;s framing devices and dialogue pervade &#8220;Tepepa&#8221;). </p>
<p>The sentence you quote seeks to convey the extent to which Petroni and Milian begin by repeating the ready-made &#8220;Cuchillo&#8221; archetype from &#8220;La resa dei conti&#8221; and &#8220;Corri, uomo, corri&#8221; (a picaresque Commedia dell&#8217;arte Harlequin, wretched peasant and wandering trickster), and twist this characterisation into the ruthless and assertive &#8220;Zapata&#8221; figure we see for the majority of the film. Apologies if this argument is not expressed as clearly as it could be. I shall look again at how I construct it.</p>
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		<title>By: Novecento</title>
		<link>http://www.austinfisher.me.uk/publications/scope-november-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Novecento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Austin,

Just read your &quot;Marxist&#039;s Gotta Do...&quot; article. It was really interesting! Good job!

I do, however, have one small query. Seeing as Tepepa, along with Zapata, is a real historical figure from the Mexican revolution, while Cuchillo is not, it seems a little strange to say the following: &quot;When next we see Tepepa, indeed, he has transformed from Cuchillo to Zapata.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Austin,</p>
<p>Just read your &#8220;Marxist&#8217;s Gotta Do&#8230;&#8221; article. It was really interesting! Good job!</p>
<p>I do, however, have one small query. Seeing as Tepepa, along with Zapata, is a real historical figure from the Mexican revolution, while Cuchillo is not, it seems a little strange to say the following: &#8220;When next we see Tepepa, indeed, he has transformed from Cuchillo to Zapata.&#8221;</p>
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